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Rereading I’ll Get There. It Better Be Worth the Trip, with Nancy Hudgins

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Nancy Hudgins joins us to talk about I’ll Get There. It Better Be Worth the Trip, John Donavan’s groundbreaking 1969 novel about a romance between two thirteen-year-old boys. Nancy is the author of Books Good Enough for You, a children’s biography of legendary children’s book editor Ursula Nordstrom, who edited I’ll Get There.

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Nancy’s childhood favorites:

Charlotte’s Web by E.B. White (an Ursula Nordstrom book)

The Pink Motel by Carol Ryrie Brink

The House of Sixty Fathers by Meindert De Jong, illustrated by Maurice Sendak (an Ursula Nordstrom book)

More Ursula Nordstrom books:

Goodnight Moon by Margaret Wise Brown

Harold and the Purple Crayon by Crockett Johnson

Where the Wild Things Are by Maurice Sendak

It’s Like This, Cat by Emily Neville

Harriet the Spy by Louise Fitzhugh

William’s Doll by Charlotte Zolatow

Stevie by John Steptoe

The Secret Language by Ursula Nordstrom

Little Bear by Else Holmelund Minarik, illustrated by Maurice Sendak

Freaky Friday and A Billion for Boris by Mary Rodgers

In the Night Kitchen by Maurice Sendak. (You can read an excerpt from Books Good Enough for You about In the Night Kitchen, published in Publisher’s Weekly, here.)

Also mentioned:

Dear Genius: The Letters of Ursula Nordstrom, edited by Leonard Marcus

Time magazine’s 2021 list of the top 100 young adult books of all time, which includes I’ll Get There

2009 Publisher’s Weekly article about the 40th anniversary reissue of I’ll Get There

2014 Los Angeles Review of Books article by Rumaan Alam about I’ll Get There

Born Free (movie trailer here)

The audiobook of Books Good Enough for You, narrated by Barbara Rosenblatt

Recommended for fans of I’ll Get There. It Better Be Worth the Trip:

Nancy: Annie on My Mind by Nancy Garden; A High Five for Glenn Burke by Phil Bildner

Deborah: The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger; Harriet the Spy by Louise Fitzhugh

Mary Grace: Bertram Cope’s Year by Henry Blake Fuller

Recommended Ursula Nordstrom books:

Nancy: All sixteen books discussed in Books Good Enough for You, especially A Hole is to Dig by Ruth Krauss

Deborah: Harriet the Spy by Louise Fitzhugh; Charlotte’s Web by E.B. White

Mary Grace: Freaky Friday by Mary Rodgers

Other Rereading Our Childhood episodes mentioned: Rereading Caddie Woodlawn by Carol Ryrie Brink; Rereading Charlotte’s Web by E.B. White; Rereading Harriet the Spy by Louise Fitzhugh; Rereading Freaky Friday by Mary Rodgers

The podcast is hosted by Buzzsprout at rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other platforms.

You can find Nancy at nancyhudgins.com, Deborah at deborahkalb.com and Mary Grace at My Life 100 Years Ago.

This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting.

Rereading From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler by E.L. Konigsburg

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For the first episode of our fourth (!) season, we reread E.L. Konigsburg’s Newbery Medal winner From The Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler, which was published in 1967. This book, one of our all-time favorites, has one of the best plot premises of all time: a suburban brother and sister run away from home and camp out at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York.

Mentioned on this episode:

Other books by Konigsburg:

Jennifer, Hecate, Macbeth, William McKinley, and Me, Elizabeth

A Proud Taste for Scarlet and Miniver

About the B’nai Bagels

Also mentioned:

Ban this Book by Alan Gratz

1965 New York Times article about the Metropolitan Museum’s purchase for $225 of a statue that may be a Leonardo da Vinci

1996 New York Times article about a cupid statue at the French cultural center in New York that may be by Michaelangelo

Post on the Metropolitan Museum website about celebrating the 50th anniversary of From the Mixed-Up Files

2017 Smithsonian magazine article in which Johnny Doran reminisces about playing Jamie in a film version of From the Mixed-Up Files

Recommended by Mary Grace: Freaky Friday by Mary Rodgers

Other Rereading Our Childhood episodes mentioned:

Rereading Jennifer, Hecate, Macbeth, William McKinley, and Me, Elizabeth by E.L. Konigsburg

Rereading Freaky Friday by Mary Rodgers

Rereading Harriet the Spy by Louise Fitzhugh

The podcast is hosted by Buzzsprout at rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other platforms.

You can find Deborah at deborahkalb.com and Mary Grace at My Life 100 Years Ago.

This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting.

Rereading The Young Unicorns by Madeleine L’Engle

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For this episode, we reread Madeleine L’Engle’s 1968 novel The Young Unicorns, the third book in the Austin family series. We discussed 1960s New York, racial representation, family musical evenings, and how absolutely bonkers this book is.

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Other books by L’Engle:

A Wrinkle in Time (1962)

Meet the A ustins (1960)

The Moon by Night (1963)

A Ring of Endless Light (1980)

Troubling a Star (1994)

A Severed Wasp (1983)

New York Times review of The Young Unicorns by Maia Wojciechowka

Blog posts on The Young Unicorns on Pickle Me This (this is the one where the writer thinks L’Engle wrote Dave as a Black character) and Lady Fancifull

Article on The Young Unicorns by Mari Ness on Reactor

2004 New Yorker article about Madeleine L’Engle

New York Times article on race in the Wuthering Heights movie (gift link)

Other episodes:

Rereading A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle

The podcast is hosted by Buzzsprout at rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other platforms.

You can find Deborah at deborahkalb.com and Mary Grace at My Life 100 Years Ago.

This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting.

Rereading All-of-a-Kind Family by Sydney Taylor

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Cover of All of a Kind Family by Sydney Taylor, five girls in identical dresses on front steps of building.

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On this episode, we discuss All-of-a-Kind Family, Sydney Taylor’s 1951 classic about five sisters growing up on New York’s Lower East Side. Over the course of a year, the girls experience joys (like celebrating Jewish holidays and the Fourth of July) and sorrows (like getting scarlet fever and even worse losing a library book), and spend a lot of time thinking about how to spend their allowance (one penny).

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Other books in the series:

More All-of-a-Kind Family

All-of-a-Kind Family Uptown

All-of-a-Kind Family Downtown

Ella of All-of-a-Kind Family

Also mentioned:

Peter and Polly in Winter by Rose Lucia (1914), Sarah’s lost library book.

From Sarah to Sydney by June Cummins (a biography of Sydney Taylor)

Jennifer Weiner’s New York Times review of From Sarah to Sydney

One of a Kind: The Life of Sydney Taylor, a children’s picture book biography by by Richard Michelson (read Deborah’s interview with Michelson here)

Recommended for fans of All-of-a-Kind Family:

Deborah: Little Women by Louisa May Alcott

Mary Grace: The Saturdays by Elizabeth Enright, Meet Me in St. Louis by Sally Benson, Seven-Day Magic by Edward Eager

Other Rereading Our Childhood episodes mentioned:

Rereading The Saturdays by Elizabeth Enright

Rereading Little Town on the Prairie by Laura Ingalls Wilder

Rereading Half Magic by Edward Eager

The podcast is hosted by Buzzsprout at rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other platforms.

You can find Deborah at deborahkalb.com and Mary Grace’s adventures in the 1920s on her blog, My Life 100 Years Ago.

This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting.

Rereading The Saturdays by Elizabeth Enright

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(We’ve been publishing episodes regularly but have gotten behind on the website, so we’re catching up. This episode was published on October 31. You can listen to it here.)

On this episode, we reread Elizabeth Enright’s 1941 novel The Saturdays, about four children who pool their allowances and set out on adventures in New York.

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Other books in the Melendy family series:

The Four-Story Mistake (1942)

Then There Were Five (1944)

Spiderweb for Two (1951)

Also by Elizabeth Enright:

Thimble Summer (1938)

Gone-Away Lake (1957)

Return to Gone-Away (1961)

Other Rereading Our Childhood episodes:

Rereading Harriet the Spy by Louise Fitzhugh

Rereading Stuart Little by E.B. White

Rereading Henry Reed, Inc. by Keith Robertson

Rereading Ballet Shoes by Noel Streatfeild

Also mentioned:

Claude Debussy’s “Golliwog’s Cakewalk”

Under Two Flags by Ouida

Mary Grace’s blog post on children’s books from 1919, on which she talks about an illustrated edition of Hans Brinker and the Silver Skates with illustrations by Elizabeth Enright’s mother, Maginel Wright Enright.

Recommended for fans of The Saturdays: Ballet Shoes by Noel Streatfeild and Harriet the Spy by Louise Fitzhugh (Mary Grace); All-of-a-Kind Family and its sequels by Sidney Taylor (Deborah).

The podcast is hosted by Buzzsprout at rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other podcast platforms. You can listen to it on Buzzsprout here.

You can find Debby’s author interviews on her blog, Bo oks Q&A by Deborah Kalb, and Mary Grace’s adventures in the 1920s on her blog, My Life 100 Years Ago.

This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting.

Rereading The Hotel Cat by Esther Averill

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(We’ve been publishing episodes regularly but have gotten behind on the website, so we’re playing catch-up. This episode was published on October 3. You can listen to it here,)

On this episode, Deborah (a cat person) rereads, and Mary Grace (not a cat person) reads, The Hotel Cat (1969), a late entry in Esther Averill’s long Cat Club series. You can listen to this episode here.

Other books in the Cat Club series:

The Cat Club (1944)

Jenny Goes to Sea (1957)

The Fire Cat (1960)

Other podcast episodes:

Rereading Harriet the Spy by Louise Fitzhugh

Rereading Ramona the Pest by Beverly Cleary

Rereading Freaky Friday by Mary Rodgers

Rereading Stuart Little by E.B. White

Also mentioned:

The Flophouse podcast, Episode #302 – Cats

Lost Ladies of Lit podcast, transcript of Episode 64, Much Better than CATS — Esther Averill’s Jenny and the Cat Club

Celebrating Children’s Book Week–and a Pioneering Librarian, on Mary Grace’s blog, My Life 100 Years Ago

Dear Genius: The Letters of Ursula Nordstrom, edited by Leonard Marcus

The Cricket in Times Square by George Selden

Recommended for fans of The Hotel Cat: Stuart Little by E.B. White and Eloise by Kay Thompson (Mary Grace), other books in the Cat Club series (Deborah)

You can find Deborah’s author interviews on her blog, Books Q&A by Deborah Kalb, and Mary Grace’s adventures in the 1920s on her blog, My Life 100 Years Ago.

This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting.

Rereading The Mysterious Disappearance of Leon (I Mean Noel) by Ellen Raskin

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Mary Grace and Deborah discuss Ellen Raskin’s 1971 mystery romp, The Mysterious Disappearance of Leon (I Mean Noel), about a woman’s decades-long search for her husband, whom she married as a child. (It’s a long story.) The book is full of word games, puzzles, and creative illustrations by Raskin, who was also a graphic artist.

Other books by Ellen Raskin:

Nothing Ever Happens on My Block (1967). This picture book, a childhood favorite of Mary Grace’s, was the first book Raskin wrote after illustrating many children’s books written by others.

Figgs and Phantoms (1974), a 1975 Newbery Honor Book.

The Westing Game (1978), winner of the 1979 Newbery Medal.

Also mentioned:

Raskin’s obituary in the New York Times (August 10, 1984).

A 2023 article in Allure about whether eating chocolate is bad for your skin.

The 2012 School Library Journal poll about the best children’s novels of all time, with The Westing Game at #9.

The Goodreads reviews of The Mysterious Disappearance of Leon (I Mean Noel) (highlight: Jeremy’s.)

Other Rereading Our Childhood episodes mentioned on this episode:

Rereading February’s Road by John Verney

Rereading Harriet the Spy by Louise Fitzhugh

Rereading Freaky Friday by Mary Rodgers

Rereading Misty of Chincoteague by Marguerite Henry

Rereading A Wrinkle in TIme by Madeleine L’Engle

Rereading Encyclopedia Brown, Boy Detective by Donald Sobol

The podcast is hosted by Buzzsprout at rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other platforms.

You can find Deborah’s author interviews on her blog, Bo oks Q&A by Deborah Kalb, and Mary Grace’s adventures in the 1920s on her blog, My Life 100 Years Ago.

This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting.

Rereading Stuart Little by E.B. White

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On this episode, Deborah and Mary Grace reread Stuart Little, E.B. White’s 1945 classic about the adventures of a New York boy who looks exactly like a mouse. They discuss their early memories of reading Stuart Little (or having it read to them), Garth Williams’ wonderful illustrations, and pioneering children’s librarian Annie Carroll Moore’s vehement opposition to the book.

Mentioned on this episode:

Charlotte’s Web by E.B. White

The Trumpet of the Swan by E.B. White

The Elements of Style by William Strunk Jr. and E.B. White

Essays of E.B. White

Letters of E.B. White

“Death of a Pig,” essay by E.B. White, The Atlantic (paywall). (Mary Grace erroneously recalled that this essay was about the birth of a pig.)

“Celebrating Children’s Book Week–and a pioneering librarian,” Mary Grace’s post on her blog, mylife100yearsago.com, about Annie Carroll Moore

The Rabbits’ Wedding, the children’s book by Stuart Little editor Garth Williams that was banned from Alabama libraries because a black and a white rabbit get married

“The Lion and the Mouse: The Battle that Shaped Children’s Literature” by Jill Lapore, The New Yorker, July 14, 2008

Stuart Little, 1999 movie (trailer)

The podcast is hosted by Buzzsprout at rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other podcast platforms.

You can find Deborah’s author interviews on her blog, Bo oks Q&A by Deborah Kalb, and Mary Grace’s adventures in the 1920s on her blog, My Life 100 Years Ago.

This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting.

Rereading Freaky Friday by Mary Rodgers

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In this episode, Mary Grace and Deborah reread one of their childhood favorites, Mary Rodgers’ 1972 mother-daughter body-switching story Freaky Friday. They also discuss Rodger’s posthumous 2022 memoir Shy, which was a New York Times Notable Book.

Here’s the original Edward Gorey cover:

And the cover for the sequel, A Billion for Boris:

The cover of the paperback edition Mary Grace read, which left her longing for her 1970s copy, turns out to be nowhere to be found on the internet.

Mentioned in this episode:

The intro to the PBS show Mystery!, with animation based on illustrations by Edward Gorey.

Summer Switch by Mary Rodgers, in which Ape Face and his dad switch bodies, with less-than-hilarious results.

Freaky Monday, a supposedly co-authored by actually more like licensed 2009 addition to the franchise.

The 1976 movie starring Barbara Harris and Jodie Foster.

The 2003 movie starring Jamie Lee Curtis and Lindsay Lohan.

Vice Versa, F. Anstey’s 1882 novel about a British man who switches bodies with his son.

The podcast is hosted by Buzzsprout at rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other podcast platforms. You can listen to it on Buzzsprout here.

You can find Debby’s author interviews on her blog, Bo oks Q&A by Deborah Kalb, and Mary Grace’s adventures in the 1920s on her blog, My Life 100 Years Ago.

This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting.

Rereading Harriet the Spy by Louise Fitzhugh

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Mary Grace and Deborah discuss Harriet the Spy, Louise Fitzhugh’s 1964 classic about an 11-year-old would-be writer, her spying career, and her interactions with her nanny, her classmates, and her parents. You can listen to the episode here.

Other books in the series:

The Long Secret (1965)

Sport (1979, published posthumously)

Fitzhugh’s first book was Suzuki Beane, a parody of Eloise, written by Sandra Scoppettone and illustrated by Fitzhugh.

We also discuss Fitzhugh’s book Nobody’s Family Is Going to Change (1974).

Here’s Deborah’s Q&A with Leslie Brody, author of the Fitzhugh biography Sometimes You Have to Lie (2020).

You can find information on the animated TV series of Harriet the Spy and a link to the (free) first episode at Rotten Tomatoes here.

The review of the Harriet the Spy animated series that Mary Grace mentioned is here.

If you enjoyed Harriet the Spy, you might also like From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler, by E.L. Konigsburg (1967). Older kids might be interested in the work of author M.E. Kerr.

The New Yorker article Mary Grace discusses about Louise Fitzhugh is here.

Here’s the original hardback cover of Harriet the Spy.

Here’s the classic paperback cover, which we discuss in this episode:

The podcast is hosted by Buzzsprout at rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other podcast platforms.

You can find Deborah’s author interviews on her blog, Books Q&A by Deborah Kalb, and Mary Grace’s adventures in the 1920s on her blog, My Life 100 Years Ago.

This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting.