Rereading Deenie by Judy Blume, with Alex Poppe

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Writer Alex Poppe joins us to talk about Deenie, Judy Blume’s 1973 novel about a girl, pigeonholed as the pretty one in her family, whose life is thrown off track when she’s diagnosed with scoliosis. Alex is the author most recently of the memoir Breakfast Wine.

Other books by Judy Blume:

Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret

The One in the Middle is the Green Kangaroo

Otherwise Known as Sheila the Great

Forever

Tales of a Fourth-Grade Nothing

Then Again, Maybe I Won’t

It’s Not the End of the World

Blubber (this is the book Alex couldn’t remember the name of)

In the Unlikely Event (this is the adult novel we couldn’t remember the name of)

Also mentioned:

Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret, the 2023 movie (trailer here)

Judy Blume: A Life by Mark Oppenheimer

New Yorker review of Judy Blume: A Life by Katy Waldman

Otherwise Known as Judy the Great by Selina Alko, children’s biography of Judy Blume

Michigan Daily article about Deenie by Rebecca Smith, a student with scoliosis

To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee

Recommended for fans of Deenie:

Alex: Fight Night by Miriam Toews; “The River Nemanus,” a short story by Anthony Doerr from the collection Memory Wall

Mary Grace: Karen and With Love from Karen by Marie Killilea (MG)

Deborah: Braced by Alison Gerber

Previous podcast episode:

Rereading Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret

The podcast is hosted by Buzzsprout at rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other platforms.

You can find Alex at alexpoppeauthor.com, Deborah at deborahkalb.com and Mary Grace at My Life 100 Years Ago.

This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting.

Rereading The Moffats by Eleanor Estes

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We had completely forgotten about Eleanor Estes’s The Moffats until a friend suggested that we reread it. Published in 1941, it’s the first in a series about four children growing up in small-town Connecticut in the 1910s. Both of us could relate to Jane, Estes’s anxious and bookish autobiographical stand-in.

Mentioned on this episode:

Other books in the series:

The Middle Moffat (1942), a Newbery Honor Book

Rufus M. (1943), a Newbery Honor Book

The Moffat Museum (1983)

Other books by Estes:

The Hundred Dresses (1944), a Newbery Honor Book

Ginger Pye (1951), winner of the 1952 Newbery Medal

Pinky Pye (1958)

Also mentioned:

Many Moons (1943) by James Thurber, with illustrations by Louis Slobodkin, winner of the Caldecott Prize

“The Little Match Girl” by Hans Christian Andersen

“Eleanor Estes: Chronicler of the Family Story,” by Claudia Mills, on the UConn Archives and Special Collections Blog. (This is the website with the story about pioneering children’s librarian Annie Carroll Moore, who was Estes’s boss, disparaging The Moffats after reading the manuscript.)

“Celebrating Children’s Books Week–and a pioneering children’s librarian,” on Mary Grace’s blog, My Life 100 Years Ago

Recommended by Deborah: The Saturdays by Elizabeth Enright; Beverly Cleary’s books

Recommended by Mary Grace: The All-of-a-Kind Family series by Sydney Taylor

Other Rereading Our Childhood episodes:

Rereading The Young Unicorns by Madeleine L’Engle

Rereading Ramona the Pest by Beverly Cleary

Rereading Stuart Little by E.B. White

Rereading Charlotte’s Web by E.B. White

The podcast is hosted by Buzzsprout at rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other platforms.

You can find Deborah at deborahkalb.com and Mary Grace at My Life 100 Years Ago.

This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting.

Rereading From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler by E.L. Konigsburg

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For the first episode of our fourth (!) season, we reread E.L. Konigsburg’s Newbery Medal winner From The Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler, which was published in 1967. This book, one of our all-time favorites, has one of the best plot premises of all time: a suburban brother and sister run away from home and camp out at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York.

Mentioned on this episode:

Other books by Konigsburg:

Jennifer, Hecate, Macbeth, William McKinley, and Me, Elizabeth

A Proud Taste for Scarlet and Miniver

About the B’nai Bagels

Also mentioned:

Ban this Book by Alan Gratz

1965 New York Times article about the Metropolitan Museum’s purchase for $225 of a statue that may be a Leonardo da Vinci

1996 New York Times article about a cupid statue at the French cultural center in New York that may be by Michaelangelo

Post on the Metropolitan Museum website about celebrating the 50th anniversary of From the Mixed-Up Files

2017 Smithsonian magazine article in which Johnny Doran reminisces about playing Jamie in a film version of From the Mixed-Up Files

Recommended by Mary Grace: Freaky Friday by Mary Rodgers

Other Rereading Our Childhood episodes mentioned:

Rereading Jennifer, Hecate, Macbeth, William McKinley, and Me, Elizabeth by E.L. Konigsburg

Rereading Freaky Friday by Mary Rodgers

Rereading Harriet the Spy by Louise Fitzhugh

The podcast is hosted by Buzzsprout at rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other platforms.

You can find Deborah at deborahkalb.com and Mary Grace at My Life 100 Years Ago.

This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting.

Rereading The Young Unicorns by Madeleine L’Engle

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For this episode, we reread Madeleine L’Engle’s 1968 novel The Young Unicorns, the third book in the Austin family series. We discussed 1960s New York, racial representation, family musical evenings, and how absolutely bonkers this book is.

Mentioned on this episode:

Other books by L’Engle:

A Wrinkle in Time (1962)

Meet the A ustins (1960)

The Moon by Night (1963)

A Ring of Endless Light (1980)

Troubling a Star (1994)

A Severed Wasp (1983)

New York Times review of The Young Unicorns by Maia Wojciechowka

Blog posts on The Young Unicorns on Pickle Me This (this is the one where the writer thinks L’Engle wrote Dave as a Black character) and Lady Fancifull

Article on The Young Unicorns by Mari Ness on Reactor

2004 New Yorker article about Madeleine L’Engle

New York Times article on race in the Wuthering Heights movie (gift link)

Other episodes:

Rereading A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle

The podcast is hosted by Buzzsprout at rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other platforms.

You can find Deborah at deborahkalb.com and Mary Grace at My Life 100 Years Ago.

This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting.

Rereading A Bear Called Paddington by Michael Bond

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On this episode, Deborah introduces Mary Grace to A Bear Called Paddington, the first book in the beloved series about a bear from Peru who ends up living with a London family. We discuss Paddington’s timeless appeal to children, his status as a British icon, and how the book can be read as a refugee’s story.

Mentioned on this episode:

Paddington, the 2014 movie (trailer here)

“Padd i ngton Bear, Refugee,” by Rebecca Mead, The New Yorker, June 28, 2017

Olga da Polga series by Michael Bond

Monsieur Pamplemousse series by Michael Bond

“Ma’amalade Sandwich, Your Majesty?” (video of Queen Elizabeth with Paddington on the British royal family’s website)

Article about the Paddington movie in the New York Times, January 9, 2015

Recommended for Paddington fans:

Mary Grace: Mary Poppins by P.L. Travers, Winnie-the-Pooh by A.A. Milne

Deborah: Pippi Longstocking by Astrid Lindgren, Stuart Little by A.A. Milne

Other episodes mentioned:

Rereading Pippi Longstocking by Astrid Lindgren

Rereading Mary Poppins by P.L. Travers

Rereading Stuart Little by E.B. White

The podcast is hosted by Buzzsprout at rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other platforms.

You can find Deborah at deborahkalb.com and Mary Grace at My Life 100 Years Ago.

This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting.

Our Favorite Picture Books

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We celebrated our 50th episode by talking about our favorite picture books and discussing our favorite memories from the two and a half years we’ve been doing the podcast.

Mentioned on this episode:

Deborah’s favorites:

Curious Ge o rge Takes a Job by H.A. Rey

The House on East 88th Street by Bernard Waber

Little Bear by Else Holmelund Minarik

Bread and Jam for Frances by Russell Hoban

What Do People Do All Day? by Richard Scarry

Mary Grace’s favorites:

Mike Mulligan and his Steam Shovel by Virginia Lee Burton

The Little Engine that Could by Watty Piper

Madeline by Ludwig Bemelmans

Harold and the Purple Crayon by Crockett Johnson

The Snowy Day by Ezra Jack Keats

Also mentioned:

Whistle for Willie by Ezra Jack Keats

The U.S. Postal Service’s The Snowy Day stamps

The Giving Tree by Shel Silverstein

New York Times articles about The Giving Tree (here and here)

Where the Wild Things Are by Maurice Sendak

Danny Dunn: Into the Volcano (forthcoming)

Other episodes mentioned:

Rereading Stuart Little by E.B. White

Rereading Danny Dunn and the Anti-Gravity Paint by Jay Williams and Raymond Abrashkin

Rereading Little Town on the Prairie, with Judith Kalb

The podcast is hosted by Buzzsprout at rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other platforms.

You can find Deborah at deborahkalb.com and Mary Grace at My Life 100 Years Ago.

This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting.

Rereading Theater Shoes, with Jean Freedman

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Writer and scholar Jean Freedman joins us to talk about Noel Streatfeild’s 1944 book Theater Shoes (originally published in the UK as Curtain Up), the story of three children who attend a theatrical school. We discuss London during World War II and welcome the (offstage) reappearance of the three sisters in Streatfeild’s beloved Ballet Shoes (1936), who are now young women pursuing their careers.

Mentioned on this episode:

Books by Jean Freedman: Whistling in the Dark: Memory and Culture in Wartime London and Peggy Seeger: A Life of Music, Love, and Politics

Other books by Noel Streatfeild: Circus Shoes, Dancing Shoes, Tennis Shoes, Skating Shoes

Mrs. Miniver (1942), trailer here

A website on Streatfeild that includes a detailed discussion on Theater Shoes/Curtain Up

Books and other works of literature mentioned in Theater Shoes: Little Women by Louisa May Alcott, Little Lord Fauntleroy by Frances Hodgson Burnett, David Copperfield by Charles Dickens, Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll, A Midsummer Night’s Dream and The Tempest by William Shakespeare, The Princess and the Pea by Hans Christen Andersen

Recommended by Jean: Little Women by Louisa May Alcott, The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain, A Little Princess by Frances Hodgson Burnett; Anne of Green Gables by L.M. Montgomery, The Witch of Blackbird Pond by Elizabeth George Speare, Johnny Tremain by Esther Forbes, A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle, and Dress Rehearsal by Monica Stirling; books by Beverly Cleary and Judy Blume; fairy tales by Oscar Wilde

Recommended by Debby: The Saturdays by Elizabeth Enright; Half Magic by Edward Eager

Recommended by Mary Grace: The Saturdays by Elizabeth Enright; The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe by C.S. Lewis

Other episodes: Rereading Ballet Shoes by Noel Streatfeild; Rereading Pippi Longstocking by Astrid Lindgren; Rereading Little Women, with Jamie Stiehm; Rereading The Witch of Blackbird Pond by Elizabeth George Speare

The podcast is hosted by Buzzsprout at rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other platforms.

You can find Deborah at deborahkalb.com, Mary Grace at My Life 100 Years Ago, and Jean at jeanfreedman.com.

This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting.

Rereading Charlotte’s Web by E.B. White

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For this episode, we reread E.B. White’s 1952 classic Charlotte’s Web, one of the most beloved children’s books of all time. We enjoyed revisiting Wilbur, Fern, Charlotte, and the underrated Templeton the Rat.

Mentioned on this episode:

Other books by E.B. White:

Stuart Little (1945)

The Trumpet of the Swan (1970)

The Elements of Style, with William Strunk Jr. (1959)

Is Sex Necessary?, with James Thurber (1929)

Essays of E.B. White (1977)

Letters of E.B. White (1976)

Boo at the Zoo event, National Zoo

Also mentioned:

The Chronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis

Post on Henry Fussy from the blog Naomi Loves

“Garth Williams, Illustrator of American Childhood,” by Sarah Larson, The New Yorker, June 3, 2016

Dear Genius: The Letters of Ursula Nordstrom, edited by Leonard Marcus (1998)

Goodreads reviews of Charlotte’s Web

The Story of Charlotte’s Web: E.B. White’s Eccentric Life in Nature and the Birth of an American Classic, Michael Sims (2011)

“Death of a Pig” by E.B. White, The Atlantic, January 1948 (paywalled)

Archy and Mehitabel by Don Marquis (1927)

Eudora Welty’s New York Times review of Charlotte’s Web, October 19, 1952

Secret of the Andes by Ann Nolan Clark (1952)

Mary Grace’s blog post on children’s librarian Annie Carroll Moore

Boo at the Zoo event, National Zoo

Recommended for fans of Charlotte’s Web: Anne of Green Gables and Caddie Woodlawn (Mary Grace); Stuart Little, The Trumpet of the Swan, Misty of Chincoteague, and The Cricket in Times Square (Deborah)

Charlotte’s Web, 1973 movie (trailer here)

Charlotte’s Web, 2006 movie (trailer here)

Charlotte’s Web, 2025 miniseries (trailer here)

Other Rereading Our Childhood episodes:

Rereading Stuart Little by E.B. White

Rereading Little Women by Louisa May Alcott

Rereading The Summer of the Swans by Betsy Byars

Rereading Caddie Woodlawn by Carol Ryrie Brink

The podcast is hosted by Buzzsprout at rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other platforms.

You can find Deborah at deborahkalb.com and Mary Grace’s adventures in the 1920s at My Life 100 Years Ago.

This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting.

Rereading Encyclopedia Brown Finds the Clues by Donald J. Sobol

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For our third annual Encyclopedia Brown episode, we matched wits with each other and with Encyclopedia in trying to crack the cases in Encyclopedia Brown Finds the Clues, which was published in 1966. The relevant clues are included in our discussion, so you can solve along with us. We discussed the origins of Bugs Meany’s hat and solved the mystery of what state Idaville is in. Also, Mary Grace mispronounced “divining rod” about 15 times.

Mentioned on this episode:

Other Encyclopedia Brown books:

Encyclopedia Brown, Boy Detective

Encyclopedia Brown and the Case of the Secret Pitch

Other Rereading Our Childhood episodes:

Rereading Johnny Tremain by Esther Forbes

Rereading Henry Reed, Inc. by Keith Robertson

Also mentioned:

Goodreads review of Encyclopedia Brown Finds the Clues by Chance Hansen

Reddit thread on what state Encyclopedia lives in

“Donald Sobol and the Case of the Elusive Mystery Writer,” interview with Donald Sobol by Elizabeth Weinstein, Oberlin Alumni Magazine, Fall 2011

Clip from a 2024 episode of Futurama featuring Wikipedia Brown

The podcast is hosted by Buzzsprout at rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other platforms.

You can find Deborah at deborahkalb.com and Mary Grace’s adventures in the 1920s at My Life 100 Years Ago.

This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting.

Rereading The Long Secret by Louise Fitzhugh

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For this episode, we reread Louise Fitzhugh’s 1965 novel The Long Secret, the sequel to Harriet the Spy. We discussed Harriet’s summer friendship with her classmate Beth Ellen, a minor character in Harriet the Spy, the mystery of who is leaving notes for residents of the Long Island town of Water Mill, and Fitzhugh’s fascinating but tragic life.

Mentioned on this episode:

Other books by Fitzhugh:

Suzuki Bean, written by Sandra Scoppettone, illustrated by Louise Fitzhugh (1961)

Harriet the Spy (1964)

Nobody’s Family is Going to Change (1974)

Sport (1980)

Also mentioned:

Sometimes You Have to Lie: The Life and Times of Louise Fitzhugh, Renegade Author of Harriet the Spy, by Leslie Brody

Deborah’s interview with Leslie Brodie on her blog Book Q&A’s with Deborah Kalb

The Tap Dance Kid, the Broadway musical based on Nobody’s Family is Going to Change (highlights from the 2022 Encores! performance here)

Gloria Vanderbilt’s New York Times review of Harriet the Spy, November 22, 1964

Goodreads reviews of The Long Secret by Robyn and Jamie

Recommended by Deborah: Freaky Friday (1972) and A Billion for Boris (1974) by Mary Rodgers; Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret (1970) by Judy Blume

Recommended by Mary Grace: Magic by the Lake by Edward Eager (1957); The Summer of the Swans by Betsy Byars (1970); All-of-a-Kind Family by Sydney Taylor (1951)

Previous episodes of Rereading Our Childhood:

Rereading Harriet the Spy by Louise Fitzhugh

Rereading Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret by Judy Blume

Rereading Freaky Friday by Mary Rodgers

Rereading Magic by the Lake by Edward Eager

Rereading The Summer of the Swans by Betsy Byars

Rereading All-of-A-Kind Family by Sydney Taylor

The podcast is hosted by Buzzsprout at rereadingourchildhood.buzzsprout.com and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other platforms.

You can find Deborah at deborahkalb.com and Mary Grace’s adventures in the 1920s at My Life 100 Years Ago.

This episode was edited by Adam Linder of Bespoken Podcasting.